1 (edited by awkpavo 2017-04-24 20:55:57)

Topic: Forward group e-mail ends up in spam

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When I create a group with e-mail forwards, all e-mail arrives normally...except Outlook puts all of it in the spam folder. It seems to pass SPF, DKIM, DMARC checks but still ends up in spam. PTR and records are checked, not listed at any blocklist and MXtoolbox mailserver check gives all green at every check. Does anyone have a clue why Outlook put those e-mails in spam?

Here is the header of a test mail:

Received: from DB5EUR03HT124.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com
 (10.165.230.41) by VI1PR08MB1182.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com with HTTPS via
 VI1PR10CA0031.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:22:05 +0000
Received: from DB5EUR03FT022.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com
 (10.152.20.57) by DB5EUR03HT124.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com
 (10.152.20.252) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,
 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.1019.14; Mon, 24
 Apr 2017 11:22:04 +0000
Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 180.180.100.100)
 smtp.mailfrom=mymaildomain.com; outlook.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified)
 header.d=senderdomain-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com;outlook.com; dmarc=none
 action=none header.from=senderdomain.com;
Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of mymaildomain.com designates
 180.180.100.100as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com;
 client-ip=180.180.100.100; helo= mx.mymaildomain.com;
Received: from COL004-MC1F24.hotmail.com (10.152.20.60) by
 DB5EUR03FT022.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.20.171) with Microsoft SMTP
 Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id
 15.1.1047.9 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:22:03 +0000
X-IncomingTopHeaderMarker: OriginalChecksum:7826DBB6BC560E77E351B29685EBBBE44B1E4392C9AE045E5B3267040B6498A8;UpperCasedChecksum:BA51A2BE64C8DED04835A279D276F337BE62AA1FC77F45DE883CB39484E55FF5;SizeAsReceived:3456;Count:23
Received: from mx.mymaildomain.com ([180.180.100.100]) by COL004-MC1F24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23143);
     Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:22:02 -0700
Received: from mx.mymaildomain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    by mx.mymaildomain.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0906056E
    for <mikester01@outlook.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:22:00 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mymaildomain.com
Authentication-Results: mx.mymaildomain.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
    header.d=senderdomain-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mx.mymaildomain.com ([127.0.0.1])
    by mx.mymaildomain.com (mx.mymaildomain.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
    with ESMTP id k4Ng1TElHc6w for <mikester01@outlook.com>;
    Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:22:00 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243])
    by mx.mymaildomain.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CBB7604DD
    for <team@groupemail.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:21:59 +0200 (CEST)
Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id z129so16488600wmb.1
        for <team@groupemail.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:21:59 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=senderdomain-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623;
        h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:subject:message-id
         :to;
        bh=6ErXpecY77wokjls71KhkZoevapcLku94hWioklkaVk=;
        b=czVKSzXAletSl1bs3XtZ7gc2kCGlf3o9YwDl8BHGt0nWu4uonyHKsgaaAec0xXZbjH
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         7M5w==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20161025;
        h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date
         :subject:message-id:to;
        bh=6ErXpecY77wokjls71KhkZoevapcLku94hWioklkaVk=;
        b=Mzzkz8mlcyVr/gYge0HHbVeHkHtQ+6+6Ww7XWY1PhvjoMcVPR4h5Cluyz1ntNTTFen
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         aBFA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7HJCOjH+wxBg1oal5zpG6vS6BNjE+ZDNOorW2Xt4NyrawqeOeT
    1D7FCpND++8EweWlWVI=
X-Received: by 10.80.184.2 with SMTP id j2mr664960ede.176.1493032912532;
        Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.0.7.165] ([213.206.222.106])
        by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a56sm3693398edd.48.2017.04.24.04.21.51
        for <team@groupemail.com>
        (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
        Mon, 24 Apr 2017 04:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: John <info@senderdomain.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:21:51 +0200
Subject: Test monday
Message-Id: <6680CC8E-095B-42DF-8CC5-046E8936FE48@senderdomain.com>
To: team@groupemail.com
X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304)
Return-Path: srs0=r95q=4a=senderdomain.com=info@mymaildomain.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2017 11:22:02.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEFFDAD0:01D2BCEC]
X-IncomingHeaderCount: 23
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X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0
X-EOPTenantAttributedMessage: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa:0
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Incoming
CMM-sender-ip: 180.180.100.100
CMM-sending-ip: 180.180.100.100
CMM-Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; spf=pass (sender IP is
 180.180.100.100) smtp.mailfrom=srs0=r95q=4a=senderdomain.com=info@mymaildomain.com;
 dkim=none header.d=senderdomain.com; x-hmca=none header.id=info@senderdomain.com
CMM-X-SID-PRA: info@senderdomain.com
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Monday test mail

This is what the log records:

Apr 24 13:22:00 mx postfix/smtp-amavis/smtp[2860]: 6CBB7604DD: to=<mikester01@outlook.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=1, delays=0.11/0.45/0.07/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 5B0906056E)
Apr 24 13:22:01 mx postfix/smtp[2867]: Untrusted TLS connection established to mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.37.72]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
Apr 24 13:22:02 mx postfix/smtp[2867]: 5B0906056E: to=<mikester01@outlook.com>, relay=mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.37.72]:25, delay=2, delays=0/0.01/1.4/0.67, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250  <6680CC8E-095B-42DF-8CC5-046E8936FE48@senderdomain.com> Queued mail for delivery)

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Re: Forward group e-mail ends up in spam

It's hard to know how Outlook.com judges it's spam, so hard to troubleshoot.

3

Re: Forward group e-mail ends up in spam

I use postsrsd it pass to outlook's inbox.

4 (edited by awkpavo 2017-04-25 18:47:41)

Re: Forward group e-mail ends up in spam

jackavin wrote:

I use postsrsd it pass to outlook's inbox.

That package is already implemented and seems to work (see the srs parts in the header) to my knowledge. Or does it seem misconfigured for Outlook?